Comments on: The Jane Creba Factor http://cynicsunlimited.com/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/ Dissecting What You Choose to Ignore Tue, 25 Oct 2011 04:29:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Cynapse http://cynicsunlimited.com/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-31 Cynapse Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:38:13 +0000 http://s149074792.onlinehome.us/cynics/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-31 No mental yoga is needed to interpret your post, name. You think blacks cause the only significant crime-sources when the highest crime rates in Canada (prairie provinces) have virtually no black people at all. 1) PORT COQUITLAM, B.C. 2) EDMONTON 3) WINNIPEG 4) SASKATOON 5) VANCOUVER 6) CALGARY 7) SURREY, B.C. 8) HALIFAX 9) TORONTO (source: MacLeans national crime rankings) You also haven't picked up a history book lately. Olivier le Jeune was the first slave brought to our shores by the French in 1628. Slavery continued to be officially practiced in Canada until 1834. Now do you honestly expect people to believe that you'd have as much sympathy if Jane Creba was black? Make peace with those black kids who took your lunch. No mental yoga is needed to interpret your post, name.
You think blacks cause the only significant crime-sources when the highest crime rates in Canada (prairie provinces) have virtually no black people at all.
1) PORT COQUITLAM, B.C.
2) EDMONTON
3) WINNIPEG
4) SASKATOON
5) VANCOUVER
6) CALGARY
7) SURREY, B.C. 8) HALIFAX
9) TORONTO
(source: MacLeans national crime rankings)

You also haven’t picked up a history book lately. Olivier le Jeune was the first slave brought to our shores by the French in 1628. Slavery continued to be officially practiced in Canada until 1834.

Now do you honestly expect people to believe that you’d have as much sympathy if Jane Creba was black?

Make peace with those black kids who took your lunch.

]]> By: Emilia Liz http://cynicsunlimited.com/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-30 Emilia Liz Fri, 16 Oct 2009 00:00:35 +0000 http://s149074792.onlinehome.us/cynics/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-30 It seems that the murderers' connection with Africa is rather tenuous. If I remember correctly, they were from Jamaica, most of whose inhabitants came from Africa generations ago and have little if anything left of any African heritage other than genetically. It seems that the murderers’ connection with Africa is rather tenuous. If I remember correctly, they were from Jamaica, most of whose inhabitants came from Africa generations ago and have little if anything left of any African heritage other than genetically.

]]> By: name http://cynicsunlimited.com/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-29 name Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:38:39 +0000 http://s149074792.onlinehome.us/cynics/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-29 Funny, isn't it? Any where an African is, there you will find Africa. Despite the mental yoga exhibited here -- this selective outrage over the immutable sympathies of the Canadian public -- the facts shine through: Jane Creba is mourned because she was innocent and uninvolved with the immigrant black gangs that are responsible for the nation's only statistically significant violent crimes. Really, what are you people apologizing for? Canada never owned slaves. This African crime wave is not your fault, nor your cross to bear. Funny, isn’t it? Any where an African is, there you will find Africa.

Despite the mental yoga exhibited here — this selective outrage over the immutable sympathies of the Canadian public — the facts shine through: Jane Creba is mourned because she was innocent and uninvolved with the immigrant black gangs that are responsible for the nation’s only statistically significant violent crimes.

Really, what are you people apologizing for? Canada never owned slaves. This African crime wave is not your fault, nor your cross to bear.

]]> By: Chris http://cynicsunlimited.com/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-28 Chris Mon, 08 Dec 2008 16:54:56 +0000 http://s149074792.onlinehome.us/cynics/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-28 "3. A shooting in a highly visible area. 21 year-old Dwayne Taylor was shot to death at Dundas Square (just blocks away from the Creba shooting) nearly half a year earlier. The venue was equally crowded, being in the midst of the annual Caribana festival, and police were present during the time of the shooting." The early hours of the morning at Yonge & Dundas, Caribana Friday, can only be compared to daytime Yonge St. Boxing Day by the extremely naïve. The police presence at Yonge & Dundas, Caribana Friday alone is a clear indication of the likelihood for violence at this yearly rendezvous for many a gangster and hoodlum. "4. The innocence of the victim. 18 year-old Jason Huxtable –a recent high school graduate who planned to study Business at Seneca College- was gunned down by a 15 year old boy for the unspeakable crime of visiting a girl who happened to live in the wrong housing project. 26 year-old Livvette Olivea Miller was killed in a manner similar to Jane Creba – the mother of four was caught in the crossfire between rival gang members at a crowded North York dance club." Right, but consider the combination of factors. For instance factor 4 (The innocence of the victim) factor 3 (A shooting in a highly visible area). An innocent death in the hood is business as usual, on Yonge St. Boxing Day, not so much. “3. A shooting in a highly visible area. 21 year-old Dwayne Taylor was shot to death at Dundas Square (just blocks away from the Creba shooting) nearly half a year earlier. The venue was equally crowded, being in the midst of the annual Caribana festival, and police were present during the time of the shooting.”

The early hours of the morning at Yonge & Dundas, Caribana Friday, can only be compared to daytime Yonge St. Boxing Day by the extremely naïve.

The police presence at Yonge & Dundas, Caribana Friday alone is a clear indication of the likelihood for violence at this yearly rendezvous for many a gangster and hoodlum.

“4. The innocence of the victim. 18 year-old Jason Huxtable –a recent high school graduate who planned to study Business at Seneca College- was gunned down by a 15 year old boy for the unspeakable crime of visiting a girl who happened to live in the wrong housing project. 26 year-old Livvette Olivea Miller was killed in a manner similar to Jane Creba – the mother of four was caught in the crossfire between rival gang members at a crowded North York dance club.”

Right, but consider the combination of factors. For instance factor 4 (The innocence of the victim) factor 3 (A shooting in a highly visible area). An innocent death in the hood is business as usual, on Yonge St. Boxing Day, not so much.

]]> By: ukieboy69 http://cynicsunlimited.com/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-27 ukieboy69 Fri, 04 Jan 2008 08:47:05 +0000 http://s149074792.onlinehome.us/cynics/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-27 Man I'm so sick of not seing any of my fellow Uke's on the front page, the white man must be stopped! Screw it lets just start a race war right now. That way the Italians and Portogese can duke it out and decide once and for all who the Gods of soccer are! And the Scotish can take on the all powerful English in revenge of William Wallace! And dammit if it has been too long since the Ukrainians and Polish have had a good street brawl! Oh wait I forgot we've all almalgamated into one race called "white". By the way, when is the next rally? Man I’m so sick of not seing any of my fellow Uke’s on the front page, the white man must be stopped! Screw it lets just start a race war right now. That way the Italians and Portogese can duke it out and decide once and for all who the Gods of soccer are! And the Scotish can take on the all powerful English in revenge of William Wallace! And dammit if it has been too long since the Ukrainians and Polish have had a good street brawl! Oh wait I forgot we’ve all almalgamated into one race called “white”. By the way, when is the next rally?

]]> By: Cynapse http://cynicsunlimited.com/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-26 Cynapse Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:11:49 +0000 http://s149074792.onlinehome.us/cynics/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-26 Not true. Irish gangs caused the same problems in Toronto (including guns) at the beginning of last century. Unsurprisingly, the spoiled English started to grumble that ALL Irish people should be deported. Not true. Irish gangs caused the same problems in Toronto (including guns) at the beginning of last century. Unsurprisingly, the spoiled English started to grumble that ALL Irish people should be deported.

]]> By: Natchal http://cynicsunlimited.com/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-25 Natchal Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:51:04 +0000 http://s149074792.onlinehome.us/cynics/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-25 If you wish to know why alot of crime in the black community isnt solved just look at the reason.The cowards in that community refuse to come forward to help police.In the other communities most of the time these crimes get solved quickly due to the help of citizens from those communities.I was coming out of Sam the record man when the shooting started and with all due respect I no longer trust or want these criminals in my country.Every time a person of color gets caught for a crime they calim poverty made them do it,well i live below the poverty line and have never once committed a crime.The only reason these vermin commit crime is because they are to lazy to go out and work for minimum wage,so they take the easy way out and sell their drugs and pimp women.We didnt have these kinds of crimes before these Jamaicans and africans came to this country and these crimes won't stop until ALL of them are deported. If you wish to know why alot of crime in the black community isnt solved just look at the reason.The cowards in that community refuse to come forward to help police.In the other communities most of the time these crimes get solved quickly due to the help of citizens from those communities.I was coming out of Sam the record man when the shooting started and with all due respect I no longer trust or want these criminals in my country.Every time a person of color gets caught for a crime they calim poverty made them do it,well i live below the poverty line and have never once committed a crime.The only reason these vermin commit crime is because they are to lazy to go out and work for minimum wage,so they take the easy way out and sell their drugs and pimp women.We didnt have these kinds of crimes before these Jamaicans and africans came to this country and these crimes won’t stop until ALL of them are deported.

]]> By: D Williams http://cynicsunlimited.com/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-24 D Williams Sat, 19 May 2007 01:40:32 +0000 http://s149074792.onlinehome.us/cynics/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-24 The issue on if Jane Creba or Livette Miller were black or white has no importance for what happened. It doesn't matter who got more 'coverage' or 'attention' in the media - the truth of the matter is a black man killed an innocent white girl. No matter how you look at it..race-issue or not..the person in the wrong here was a black man. So wether, you, the reader are black or white..that same 'black' man could have murdered you... The issue on if Jane Creba or Livette Miller were black or white has no importance for what happened.
It doesn’t matter who got more ‘coverage’ or ‘attention’ in the media – the truth of the matter is a black man killed an innocent white girl.
No matter how you look at it..race-issue or not..the person in the wrong here was a black man.
So wether, you, the reader are black or white..that same ‘black’ man could have murdered you…

]]> By: Emilia Liz http://cynicsunlimited.com/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-23 Emilia Liz Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:04:06 +0000 http://s149074792.onlinehome.us/cynics/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-23 I believe Jean Springer's death has raised, again, the question about the mentally ill and whether they should be forced to undergo treatment. From what I read, the man who killed Ms. Springer was a schizophrenic who had gone off his medications. Now one might ask whether he should have been forced to take them or at least monitored. It's a difficult question. Generally I support individuals' choice to do things that I myself would not choose to do or would consider foolish, like drinking raw milk, smoking, etcetera. But in the case of the mentally ill, we have to keep in mind that they usually don't reason like other people and that they can very well pose a threat to themselves or to others (not that all mentally ill individuals are violent or that all violent people are mentally ill). On the other hand, one has to ask the question: who is mentally ill? In the former Soviet Union, dissidents who were perfectly normal were confined to institutions. Homosexuality in the West was once considered a mental disorder. I have personally known a man who was misdiagnosed as schizophrenic (he in reality had epilepsy). But in the case of Ms. Springer's killer, it is almost certain she would be alive today if he had been on medication. It's a dilemma... I believe Jean Springer’s death has raised, again, the question about the mentally ill and whether they should be forced to undergo treatment. From what I read, the man who killed Ms. Springer was a schizophrenic who had gone off his medications. Now one might ask whether he should have been forced to take them or at least monitored. It’s a difficult question. Generally I support individuals’ choice to do things that I myself would not choose to do or would consider foolish, like drinking raw milk, smoking, etcetera. But in the case of the mentally ill, we have to keep in mind that they usually don’t reason like other people and that they can very well pose a threat to themselves or to others (not that all mentally ill individuals are violent or that all violent people are mentally ill). On the other hand, one has to ask the question: who is mentally ill? In the former Soviet Union, dissidents who were perfectly normal were confined to institutions. Homosexuality in the West was once considered a mental disorder. I have personally known a man who was misdiagnosed as schizophrenic (he in reality had epilepsy). But in the case of Ms. Springer’s killer, it is almost certain she would be alive today if he had been on medication. It’s a dilemma…

]]> By: Emilia Liz http://cynicsunlimited.com/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-22 Emilia Liz Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:34:53 +0000 http://s149074792.onlinehome.us/cynics/2006/01/01/the-jane-creba-factor/#comment-22 Perhaps the reporter meant that because Ms. Springer was very involved in community affairs (her church, etcetera) her death meant that all those organizations to which she belonged lost a very valuable member. So it seems unclear whether "her community" meant the Black population as a whole or the actual circle of people with whom she dealt. Jane Creba on the other hand was much younger and didn't have the opportunity to be so involved in community affairs. Perhaps the reporter meant that because Ms. Springer was very involved in community affairs (her church, etcetera) her death meant that all those organizations to which she belonged lost a very valuable member. So it seems unclear whether “her community” meant the Black population as a whole or the actual circle of people with whom she dealt. Jane Creba on the other hand was much younger and didn’t have the opportunity to be so involved in community affairs.

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