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	<title>Comments on: Book Review: The Invisible Empire &#8211; Racism in Canada</title>
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		<title>By: Emilia Liz</title>
		<link>http://cynicsunlimited.com/2009/01/26/book-review-the-invisible-empire-racism-in-canada/#comment-1698</link>
		<dc:creator>Emilia Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 20:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear B,

As far as I know, there has never been an update to this work.  At least they don&#039;t mention any updates of her book on the library catalogue.

With regard to what you say about minorities not liking each other, the great irony of the June Callwood case is that although she was frequently portrayed as a &quot;woman of White privilege,&quot; she actually has Native American ancestry.  So maybe she could be considered a woman of colour, though I&#039;m sure she passed for White all her life.

Emilia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear B,</p>
<p>As far as I know, there has never been an update to this work.  At least they don&#8217;t mention any updates of her book on the library catalogue.</p>
<p>With regard to what you say about minorities not liking each other, the great irony of the June Callwood case is that although she was frequently portrayed as a &#8220;woman of White privilege,&#8221; she actually has Native American ancestry.  So maybe she could be considered a woman of colour, though I&#8217;m sure she passed for White all her life.</p>
<p>Emilia</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
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		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting sounding book.

It does seem that it missed alot of the complexity. Racism is everywhere in this country though not as overt as what I experienced in the 80s....not that overt acts dont still happen.

On that note the last overt act I faced was from another visible minority group in a restaurant....it was bad...think southern U.S. in the 50s. There is hate in many directions though those with the most power to do anything about their racist feelings is the majority group.

I like the definition that anyone can be a bigot but power in given situation is required to commit an act of racism. It really shows people how much this can and is going on in society. It would help people writing books on racism deal with the fact that many minorities, who are in competition with each other for resources owned by the majority group, hate each other.

Cynapse is also right about hate within groups based on place of birth, colour, religion etc....that goes for all races including whites.

Emilia, do you know if this author ever did an update or follow up??

B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting sounding book.</p>
<p>It does seem that it missed alot of the complexity. Racism is everywhere in this country though not as overt as what I experienced in the 80s&#8230;.not that overt acts dont still happen.</p>
<p>On that note the last overt act I faced was from another visible minority group in a restaurant&#8230;.it was bad&#8230;think southern U.S. in the 50s. There is hate in many directions though those with the most power to do anything about their racist feelings is the majority group.</p>
<p>I like the definition that anyone can be a bigot but power in given situation is required to commit an act of racism. It really shows people how much this can and is going on in society. It would help people writing books on racism deal with the fact that many minorities, who are in competition with each other for resources owned by the majority group, hate each other.</p>
<p>Cynapse is also right about hate within groups based on place of birth, colour, religion etc&#8230;.that goes for all races including whites.</p>
<p>Emilia, do you know if this author ever did an update or follow up??</p>
<p>B</p>
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		<title>By: Emilia Liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emilia Liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think both White Supremacists on one hand and radical (i.e. left-wing) &quot;people of colour&quot; and their allies on the other seem to think that all non-Whites are going to band together to either plot to destroy the White race or valiantly fight the White oppressor.  But the reality is otherwise.  You mentioned different non-White groups not exactly loving one another.  Another piece of news: nor do different White ethnic groups.  For example, a plain old British Isles-stock friend of mine in Vancouver told me his father experienced discrimination in Toronto in the first part of the 20th century on account of being Catholic.  In Italy (where my father was born) apparently the most popular immigrant immigrant group there are the Filipinos, many of whom come to work as domestics, and the least the Albanians.  Now the thing that stands out here is that Filipinos are not White (well, perhaps beyond the very few who have enough Spanish ancestry to be able to pass as such), whereas Albanians are.  So so much for the great White brotherhood!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think both White Supremacists on one hand and radical (i.e. left-wing) &#8220;people of colour&#8221; and their allies on the other seem to think that all non-Whites are going to band together to either plot to destroy the White race or valiantly fight the White oppressor.  But the reality is otherwise.  You mentioned different non-White groups not exactly loving one another.  Another piece of news: nor do different White ethnic groups.  For example, a plain old British Isles-stock friend of mine in Vancouver told me his father experienced discrimination in Toronto in the first part of the 20th century on account of being Catholic.  In Italy (where my father was born) apparently the most popular immigrant immigrant group there are the Filipinos, many of whom come to work as domestics, and the least the Albanians.  Now the thing that stands out here is that Filipinos are not White (well, perhaps beyond the very few who have enough Spanish ancestry to be able to pass as such), whereas Albanians are.  So so much for the great White brotherhood!</p>
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		<title>By: Cynapse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynapse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 03:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good review, ma&#039;am!

It seems that this book would be on the level if the title added one word - &quot;Institutional&quot;.  When talking about institutional racism in Canada, it is certainly white on non-white.  On the street level, anyone is equally capable of the name-calling and snobbery that constitutes &quot;racism&quot; in most people&#039;s minds.

In my observation, racism is merely a numbers game.  When I lived in rural areas, all non-whites were easy pickings for the farm-boy population.  This group was mostly native but also black, South Asian, Jewish and Chinese (Eastern Europeans, who also faced their fair share of garbage in recent times, were also quite friendly).  We banded together for survival because there were few of us.

However, these &quot;allies&quot; changed when their relative population changed:


-When I visited the rez, that native goodwill quickly melted away and they got fairly nasty with anyone who wasn&#039;t native.  When I started dating a girl off the reserve, a couple of objectionable natives almost got &quot;handled&quot;.
-University was my first full exposure to large groups of black people.  I figured my problems were over so long as I hung with them.  Instead I got my first exposure to colorism, bias against those who are Canadian-born, and the rather crude rivalry between Africans and Caribbeans.
-In Toronto, the South Asian, Chinese and Jewish folks were no long allies to me or each other.  They prefer to hide in their own little &quot;multicultural&quot; enclaves and behave just like the whites they say are keeping them down.  In fact, most of my run-ins in this town have been with Jamaicans and South Asians.


This is not to say I fault the book&#039;s content, particularly because I haven&#039;t read it.  However, street-level racism is more of a super-highway than a one-way street.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/2007/07/10/the-victim-beggar-complex/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The victim-beggar complex&lt;/a&gt; stays in business by preaching otherwise and securing themselves all kinds of funding/powers to fight one specific kind of bigoty which is already under heavy social scrutiny.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good review, ma&#8217;am!</p>
<p>It seems that this book would be on the level if the title added one word &#8211; &#8220;Institutional&#8221;.  When talking about institutional racism in Canada, it is certainly white on non-white.  On the street level, anyone is equally capable of the name-calling and snobbery that constitutes &#8220;racism&#8221; in most people&#8217;s minds.</p>
<p>In my observation, racism is merely a numbers game.  When I lived in rural areas, all non-whites were easy pickings for the farm-boy population.  This group was mostly native but also black, South Asian, Jewish and Chinese (Eastern Europeans, who also faced their fair share of garbage in recent times, were also quite friendly).  We banded together for survival because there were few of us.</p>
<p>However, these &#8220;allies&#8221; changed when their relative population changed:</p>
<p>-When I visited the rez, that native goodwill quickly melted away and they got fairly nasty with anyone who wasn&#8217;t native.  When I started dating a girl off the reserve, a couple of objectionable natives almost got &#8220;handled&#8221;.<br />
-University was my first full exposure to large groups of black people.  I figured my problems were over so long as I hung with them.  Instead I got my first exposure to colorism, bias against those who are Canadian-born, and the rather crude rivalry between Africans and Caribbeans.<br />
-In Toronto, the South Asian, Chinese and Jewish folks were no long allies to me or each other.  They prefer to hide in their own little &#8220;multicultural&#8221; enclaves and behave just like the whites they say are keeping them down.  In fact, most of my run-ins in this town have been with Jamaicans and South Asians.</p>
<p>This is not to say I fault the book&#8217;s content, particularly because I haven&#8217;t read it.  However, street-level racism is more of a super-highway than a one-way street.  <a href="http://www.cynicsunlimited.com/2007/07/10/the-victim-beggar-complex/" rel="nofollow">The victim-beggar complex</a> stays in business by preaching otherwise and securing themselves all kinds of funding/powers to fight one specific kind of bigoty which is already under heavy social scrutiny.</p>
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